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October 23rd, 2017 • 34 mins 48 secs • Download (16.1 MB) • Link with Timestamp
Kirk McElhearn and Josh Long chat with Serge Kameni, a long-time Intego developer, about the company's early years, then discuss Apple's Face ID, coming with the iPhone X.