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August 30th, 2023 • 1 hr 7 mins • Download (92.1 MB) • Link with Timestamp
Alexa is joined by Jennifer Gutsell to discuss the controversy surrounding Yoel's visit to UCLA. They critique the use of anti-DEI rhetoric in these conversations, and ask if psychology is in denial about the progress we've made.