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May 15th, 2023 • 1 hr 6 mins • Download (30.3 MB) • Link with Timestamp
Back again with more amazing conversations we got while in the Ivoclar Ballroom at LMT Lab Day Chicago 2023. This time we talk to Katie Rinaldo and Mandy Arena who are trying to make Denturism legal in Illinois, CDT of the Year Jen Ludwig, and seasoned educator Jim Collis.