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October 31st, 2013 • 54 mins 30 secs • Download (25.3 MB) • Link with Timestamp
Jeffrey Zeldman and Dribbble co-founder Dan Cederholm discuss fear of CSS pre-processors, growing the Dribbble design community, the craft of code, and Dan’s new book, Sass For Web Designers.