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March 25th, 2011 • 1 hr 18 mins • Download (36.3 MB) • Link with Timestamp
John Siracusa and Dan Benjamin revisit Apple's iLife island and Google's operational secret weapons, then talk about the nature of criticism, online and offline.
March 25th, 2011 • 1 hr 18 mins • Download (36.3 MB) • Link with Timestamp
John Siracusa and Dan Benjamin revisit Apple's iLife island and Google's operational secret weapons, then talk about the nature of criticism, online and offline.