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July 23rd, 2023 • 41 mins 46 secs • Download (28.7 MB) • Link with Timestamp
Benjamin describes his time in the 2023 Toyota bZ4X, which isn't a compliance car, but sometimes feels like one thanks to all of its compromises and bizarre design decisions. Then the guys have a frank discussion based on the reveal of the 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe. Thanks for listening!