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January 14th, 2024 • 43 mins 45 secs • Download (60.1 MB) • Link with Timestamp
This is an episode I did with Brian Dunning, host of Skeptoid and producer and director of THE UFO MOVIE THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE and Richard Saunders, host of The Skeptic Zone. Enjoy!