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September 5th, 2014 • 1 hr 31 mins • Download (42.3 MB) • Link with Timestamp
Dan is joined by Haddie to discuss being original and being copied, the difference between getting burnt out vs losing focus on your goal, loving what you do, finding the joy in the process not just the end result, and Dan reveals secrets about 5by5.