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April 13th, 2015 • 28 mins 23 secs • Download (19.5 MB) • Link with Timestamp
Ben talks with Justin Gitlin on changing the experience of a social media platform, as well as shaping game dev to art (and vice versa).
April 13th, 2015 • 28 mins 23 secs • Download (19.5 MB) • Link with Timestamp
Ben talks with Justin Gitlin on changing the experience of a social media platform, as well as shaping game dev to art (and vice versa).