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Episode 238: Break It Up, with Richard Kreitner

August 28th, 2020  •  1 hr 8 mins  •  Download (62.9 MB)  •  Link with Timestamp

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My guest is Richard Kreitner. His new book is "Break It Up: Secession, Division, and the Secret History of America's Imperfect Union." The novel and fiery thesis of Break It Up is simple: The United States has never lived up to its name—and never will. The disunionist impulse may have found its greatest expression in the Civil War, but as Break It Up shows, the seduction of secession wasn’t limited to the South or the nineteenth century. It was there at our founding and has never gone away.